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rosiespark ([personal profile] rosiespark) wrote2005-12-17 01:39 pm

A veritable deluge of post!

Thank you, [livejournal.com profile] nolivingman, [livejournal.com profile] inlovewithnight and [livejournal.com profile] semyaza for your lovely cards! I"m feeling loved! :)

[livejournal.com profile] semyaza, the bookmark made me snort appreciatively, as did the suggestion of a glitter-coated Archie. Not that I don't already think he shines brightly enough, but out-of-uniform-and-lightly-dusted-with-glitter Archie is well worth pondering...

And [livejournal.com profile] inlovewithnight, Lee's Saturnalia address cracked me up! I'm still giggling at how pleased he is about the Tighs getting left troublesome unidentified packages - and his "don't write that down" asides to Dee. LOL! And the snipped corners! ::loves::

And my very own unidentified package at the post office was your parcel, [livejournal.com profile] fajrdrako. Ooh, present! And a pretty card - thank you! I'm resisting opening the present till Christmas Day - am resolved to be good. ::hugs you::
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[identity profile] rosiespark.livejournal.com 2005-12-18 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay for Twistees! Though I'm not sure I'm overjoyed at the thought of a cheesy (in more senses than one?) snack being considered as one of Malta's finer cultural creations. LOL. What about rabbit, or the elusive lampuki pie? Or even pastizzi?!

Re. the fic, whenever you have time is fine by me. Really - it won't kill me to have to exercise some patience! In fact it will probably be good for me. :) I'd rather you took your time and enjoyed the discussion!

As for "research", it was all done online. And I found a mention of the Birgu naval bakery while Googling, but needed two large and well known ones located near Plymouth and the mouth of the Thames, so couldn't fit it in, much as I would have liked to. I also checked a couple of words in the Online Etymology Dictionary (http://www.etymonline.com/), since I like to avoid obvious anachronisms where possible. The meaning of "waspish" as I used it surprisingly dates from 1566! And then I found info. on watches and ship's bells here (http://www.navy.mil/navydata/questions/bells.html) and [livejournal.com profile] black_hound confirmed that it was the same in 1802. I love the internet!

[identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com 2005-12-18 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
What about rabbit,

I'll make that one of these days. It's rather expensive here - but worth it!

or the elusive lampuki pie?

I never actually tried that....

Or even pastizzi?!

When I'm feeling brave and have time to cook it! Meanwhile, Twistees will have to do.

Some of the words that look like anachronisms turn out to be very old and some words that sound old, aren't. I like to look things up as much as possible and my usual rule of thumb for settings after 1600 is: if it's in Shakespeare, it's okay. Luckily I know Shakespeare well enough for this to be useful.

There are two caveats to that. One is that there is a whole class of words that are perfectly legitimately old but don't sound it, and readers tend to think they are very modern even though they're not. I try to avoid these too - after all, in a story, the important thing is the mood and the effect, not the literal reality.

The other problem is that some old words simply sound archaic and obscure and I don't want to confuse readers or come off sounding like Sir Walter Scott (whose writing I do not admire, with apologies to Judith Wilt). So they may be okay in terms of history, but they aren't okay in terms of writing style.

I don't really apply any of these notions when I'm writing with a medieval or classical setting - I figure that's in translation to the modern anyway and actual words have to be evocative rather than accurate. In other words, I may be able to read Anglo-Norman and Palestinian Old French or Latin, but I'm sure not going to write in those languages!

[identity profile] simhedges.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. You get promised and promised lampuki pie. But does it ever actually appear? No. It's a con. btw, in Venice in 2009 I want a talk on the Crusades. In English.

[identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
You are actually asking for a talk on the crusades?

You mean I can talk about the crusades all I want? With a captive audience?

HOORAY!

As for lampuki pie.... Do you think it really exists, outside of cookbooks? Perhaps it's a huge hoax perpetrated by the Maltese people on the rest of the world. [livejournal.com profile] rosiespark would know but she isn't telling.

[identity profile] simhedges.livejournal.com 2006-02-25 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if the Dunnett Carnival of Venice ever gets of the ground (um, wrong metaphor there, I suspect) you can talk about the crusades - but not *all you want*! And the audience will be permitted to leave. And you'll probably have to mention in passing that crusade where the stuff got nicked from Alexandria. But you can wittily and informatively entertain us about Baldwin & Richard & Saladin & the Lusignans & Co. btw, have you ever seen the musical 'Blondel'. Set in 1189.

[identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com 2006-02-25 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if the Dunnett Carnival of Venice ever gets of the ground (um, wrong metaphor there, I suspect) you can talk about the crusades - but not *all you want*!

Sigh. I know there's be restrictions. There always are.

And you'll probably have to mention in passing that crusade where the stuff got nicked from Alexandria.

The one St. Francis was on, you mean?

btw, have you ever seen the musical 'Blondel'. Set in 1189.

No, though I'd certainly like to.