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fajrdrako who's also planning to watch this episode today, wanted to join in the fun. Sorry! Do feel free to join in, whether you've just rewatched or not!
- I love the way we're back at the exact moment that Rose ended, with Rose running into the TARDIS to take the Doctor up on his offer of all of Space and Time to explore. And he's definitely showing off, what with hopping 100 years, then 10,000 years and then five billion years into Rose's future. Boys and their toys... *g*
- Rose's heedless excitement, right up to the moment where the Doctor says "Welcome to the end of the world!" and you can see the doubt creeping in. Bit of a strange choice for a first trip, no?
- Rose as the Doctor's "plus one" - it defines her nicely, since she's certainly not his wife, partner, concubine or prostitute. *g*
- I'm trying to get my head round the idea of the Face of Boe being Captain Jack Harkness. The thought is making me screw my face up and...no, 'fraid it's not really working. Jack would have had to live for over five billion years to reach this point! I mean, it's a clever twist but I'm sorry, RTD, I'm not really buying it.
- The Doctor flirts with Jabe right from the get go. Oh yes, there's a definite spark!
- Soft Cell's Tainted Love is "classical music from humanity's greatest composers". Hee!
- I love Rose's dawning realisation, when she's talking to Ruffalo, about the Doctor: "Don't even know who he is. He's a complete stranger." Well, yes he is, Rose - didn't Jackie ever tell you not to get into cars (let alone spaceships!) with strange men?
- You can keep the cliched aliens and the splodey sun, thank you very much. What I really enjoy in this episode is the developing bond between Rose and the Doctor. After shutting her out completely when they're on the observation deck and she wants to know where he's from, the Doctor chooses at the end of the episode to tell her about the Time War and the loss of his planet and his people. And she offers to stay with him - it's partly the lure of adventure and partly, I think, that she knows how lost and lonely he is. She knows that he needs her, and she says as much in Father's Day when he threatens to leave her. And I think that's important for Rose, to be needed - look at her relationships with Jackie and Mickey. But the Doctor can offer her so much more than either of those two, so it's a more equal relationship. Or a mutually dependant one. *g* Whatever it is, it works brilliantly between them until the Doctor's regeneration. The relationship doesn't work nearly as well with Ten, in my opinion, because he doesn't need Rose in the same way, or to the same degree as Nine does. In fact, I'm afraid Ten's feelings for Rose are a closed book to me - I know he's supposed to love her, but I don't feel it. Ah well, let's save that for a later discussion, shall we?
- The hints of the Doctor's pain and grief about Gallifrey and his role in the Time War are very cleverly worked into these first episodes. Last episode we had his words to the Nestene Consciousness about how he couldn't save them, he couldn't save any of them - completely impenetrable to first time viewers. And this time it's the look of pain on his face when he opens up, just a little bit, to Jabe about where he's from, when they're in the maintenance corridor. She has evidently heard of the Time War and the destruction of the Time Lords, and she's very perceptive. Her comment that "Perhaps a man only enjoys trouble when there's nothing else left" stops him in his tracks. And then the big reveal to Rose at the end - notice, though, that he doesn't answer Rose when she asks who the enemy was in the Time War - that little snippet of info. is left unresolved till later.
- Cassandra's 708 operations evidently included a sex change operation among all the facelifts. She says to Rose when describing her life on Earth: "when I was a little boy". It's such a throwaway line that I didn't spot it for several rewatches. Typical RTD.
- there's some great banter between the Doctor and Rose. Frex, when she's trapped on the observation deck, he says "Stay there, don't move," and she indignantly replies "Where'm I gonna go? Ipswich?" Yay Rose! She's not afraid to snark at him.
- I like the Doctor's comment, when he's about to let Cassandra die, that "Everything has its time and everything dies". The same idea is reflected in his later words to Rose about how his planet was destroyed "before its time". Though he shows such ruthlessness and anger in the Cassandra scene that I can't help thinking he's thinking of Jabe's needless death and that there's an element of revenge and even of satisfaction in his words. Dark Doctor.
- The scene in the empty Manchester Suite where the Doctor says "Come with me" to Rose and takes her hand still gives me the shivers. Such quiet intensity. That's what I love about Nine, his intensity. Christopher Eccleston is always brilliant, whatever he's in, but I can't even begin to imagine what the series would have been like with anyone else as the Ninth Doctor.
- And I have to admit I was sceptical about casting an ex-pop star as the Doctor's Companion, but by the end of this episode, Billie Piper's Rose had completely won me over.
I'm stopping here because I have laundry to hang out on the roof and cats to feed. Hmph. Can you imagine it, the Doctor invites me to go travelling with him and I say I can't, because someone's got to feed the cats...?
I did mean to let people know in advance, in case anyone else, apart from
fajrdrako who's also planning to watch this episode today, wanted to join in the fun. Sorry! Do feel free to join in, whether you've just rewatched or not!- I love the way we're back at the exact moment that Rose ended, with Rose running into the TARDIS to take the Doctor up on his offer of all of Space and Time to explore. And he's definitely showing off, what with hopping 100 years, then 10,000 years and then five billion years into Rose's future. Boys and their toys... *g*
- Rose's heedless excitement, right up to the moment where the Doctor says "Welcome to the end of the world!" and you can see the doubt creeping in. Bit of a strange choice for a first trip, no?
- Rose as the Doctor's "plus one" - it defines her nicely, since she's certainly not his wife, partner, concubine or prostitute. *g*
- I'm trying to get my head round the idea of the Face of Boe being Captain Jack Harkness. The thought is making me screw my face up and...no, 'fraid it's not really working. Jack would have had to live for over five billion years to reach this point! I mean, it's a clever twist but I'm sorry, RTD, I'm not really buying it.
- The Doctor flirts with Jabe right from the get go. Oh yes, there's a definite spark!
- Soft Cell's Tainted Love is "classical music from humanity's greatest composers". Hee!
- I love Rose's dawning realisation, when she's talking to Ruffalo, about the Doctor: "Don't even know who he is. He's a complete stranger." Well, yes he is, Rose - didn't Jackie ever tell you not to get into cars (let alone spaceships!) with strange men?
- You can keep the cliched aliens and the splodey sun, thank you very much. What I really enjoy in this episode is the developing bond between Rose and the Doctor. After shutting her out completely when they're on the observation deck and she wants to know where he's from, the Doctor chooses at the end of the episode to tell her about the Time War and the loss of his planet and his people. And she offers to stay with him - it's partly the lure of adventure and partly, I think, that she knows how lost and lonely he is. She knows that he needs her, and she says as much in Father's Day when he threatens to leave her. And I think that's important for Rose, to be needed - look at her relationships with Jackie and Mickey. But the Doctor can offer her so much more than either of those two, so it's a more equal relationship. Or a mutually dependant one. *g* Whatever it is, it works brilliantly between them until the Doctor's regeneration. The relationship doesn't work nearly as well with Ten, in my opinion, because he doesn't need Rose in the same way, or to the same degree as Nine does. In fact, I'm afraid Ten's feelings for Rose are a closed book to me - I know he's supposed to love her, but I don't feel it. Ah well, let's save that for a later discussion, shall we?
- The hints of the Doctor's pain and grief about Gallifrey and his role in the Time War are very cleverly worked into these first episodes. Last episode we had his words to the Nestene Consciousness about how he couldn't save them, he couldn't save any of them - completely impenetrable to first time viewers. And this time it's the look of pain on his face when he opens up, just a little bit, to Jabe about where he's from, when they're in the maintenance corridor. She has evidently heard of the Time War and the destruction of the Time Lords, and she's very perceptive. Her comment that "Perhaps a man only enjoys trouble when there's nothing else left" stops him in his tracks. And then the big reveal to Rose at the end - notice, though, that he doesn't answer Rose when she asks who the enemy was in the Time War - that little snippet of info. is left unresolved till later.
- Cassandra's 708 operations evidently included a sex change operation among all the facelifts. She says to Rose when describing her life on Earth: "when I was a little boy". It's such a throwaway line that I didn't spot it for several rewatches. Typical RTD.
- there's some great banter between the Doctor and Rose. Frex, when she's trapped on the observation deck, he says "Stay there, don't move," and she indignantly replies "Where'm I gonna go? Ipswich?" Yay Rose! She's not afraid to snark at him.
- I like the Doctor's comment, when he's about to let Cassandra die, that "Everything has its time and everything dies". The same idea is reflected in his later words to Rose about how his planet was destroyed "before its time". Though he shows such ruthlessness and anger in the Cassandra scene that I can't help thinking he's thinking of Jabe's needless death and that there's an element of revenge and even of satisfaction in his words. Dark Doctor.
- The scene in the empty Manchester Suite where the Doctor says "Come with me" to Rose and takes her hand still gives me the shivers. Such quiet intensity. That's what I love about Nine, his intensity. Christopher Eccleston is always brilliant, whatever he's in, but I can't even begin to imagine what the series would have been like with anyone else as the Ninth Doctor.
- And I have to admit I was sceptical about casting an ex-pop star as the Doctor's Companion, but by the end of this episode, Billie Piper's Rose had completely won me over.
I'm stopping here because I have laundry to hang out on the roof and cats to feed. Hmph. Can you imagine it, the Doctor invites me to go travelling with him and I say I can't, because someone's got to feed the cats...?